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Title: Bleeding / Conflict of Interest with Gummybear (aka handmadeheaven)
Character Name: Juniper, Natania
As you are all well aware, Juniper planned a bombing event ICly. She coordinated with us admins to make this event possible and was supported through this process. Her chat history shows her to be very excited about this event, and her recent chat history in the Brighton chat seems to show her pleased with the death count despite ICly not wanting to cause any deaths - only structural damage.
The player seemed to have a lot of interest in the event being a big and bold one and seemed very focused on ensuring they were successful on what they planned for their character, making CPF be framed for this bombing. (which of course is fine in an of itself!).
The player who plays Juniper, Gummybear, has two forum accounts. Her other account, handmadeheaven, already has two characters. One of these is Rose Knights. The other is Natania Sherman. I do not know if this player has donated or not, but if not my understanding (although we update this often) is she is not allowed three characters to begin with.
After pulling off the bombing as Juniper, they logged and went onto their alt, Natania.
Natania has established herself to be forward-thinking and cool headed. She has exhibited these traits in her character and has put them in the personality section of her biography. I believeeven getting on Natania, a CPF leader, to participate in an other event in which she wants CPF to be framed, represents a conflict of interest. I think her very intentionally putting Natania into places where she could act in such a war to stir trouble and implicate CPF farther exacerbates this. Furthermore, I find it suspicious that she applied to Natania and Juniper under seperate account names.
I've established that I believe this conflict of interest exists. However, I do believe there is a possibility for a player to be involved in an event of their making without automatically bleeding or acting out of character.
I will now explain why I do not think that is the case in this situation.
For starters, Arlo and Natania had an earlier interaction not long before the scene where she was shown to be kind to him and seemed to see first hand he was a sensitive and sensible individual. I understand this point is flimsy as it's easy to change opinions on somebody you just met in the heat of the moment, but I believe it to be worth mentioning all the same.
More compelling, the death scene started when Arlo was walking away from the prisoner to go work to repair the walls and he came back upon hearing shouts from the prisoner after leaving her alone with Charles.
Arlo, in front of Natania, absconded Charles for whatever it is he had done to make her scream, insisting that he move and allow him to help her. Again, Natania ICly witnessed this, seeing Arlo stand up against her mistreatment while Charles promoted it.
Upon all three characters (Charles, Arlo, and Natania) entering the room, it was apparent Noelle (the prisoner) was not harmed. Upon this affirmation, Arlo asked Natania to please leave the room. She refused. Thinking maybe nobody informed her about the situation, Arlo patiently explained that Noelle was caught with bombmaking materials inside room, along with a bomb, and that there was more than enough evidence to detain her. He personally assured her that he would not let harm come to her without a fair trial.
Natania still refused to leave. Upon Arlo requesting that Charles detain her due to her refusal to leave the jailhouse, she drew a gun, pointing it towards Arlo. Arlo, having been drawn down on, raised his own gun too.
That brings us to the moments before Arlo's death. In them, we see Natania, a supposedly forward-thinking and cool headed person with loyalty to CPF, acting in a way that is diametrically opposed to her established character (both in her app and in past roleplay on the server). Natania is a Chief Ranger, a position that is very difficult to get and requires god street smarts, people skills, and the ability to think about what's best for CPF. As Natania was sent to The Barrens specifically to ingratiate herself to the locals, it's reasonable to believe she was particularly talented in this department.
In this situation, Natania is surrounded by Monroe's townspeople. It is extremely clear she wouldn't survive murdering Arlo.
Murdering Arlo would not achieve anything. In fact, it would achieve the opposite of her goal. It would very clearly make CPF look to be responsible for the bombing, considering she tried to forcefully break out the woman detained, using violence to do so. This is obvious, and something a character with limited wits would understand, much less one that is forward thinking and cool headed like Natania.
All the same, Natania chose to shoot Arlo, killing him. She did this despite it being massively out of character, despite the fact it would make Natania implicate guilt for CPF, despite the fact it would obviously be suicide.
Furthermore, Natania chose to choose Arlo over Charles, whereas Arlo was advocating against Charles in favor of ethical treatment of the prisoner and was not going to detain Natania herself, asking Charles to do so. I believe she had no IC reason to do this and I believe it's at least a real possibility she chose this decision OOCly because she thought Arlo might be the more clear-headed of the two, less likely to immediately blame CPF.
When briefly called out for this choice ICly, Natania simply noted that it was "a character flaw." I do not believe this to be the case. I believe the evidence laid out within this support ticket makes it painfully clear that Gummy/Handmadeheaven logged onto to her alt (a character she might not even be allowed to have) in order to implicate CPF for the benefit of her other character, Juniper. In doing so, she acted massively out of character, murdering my well-established character who provides solid roleplay for the server in order to achieve her other character's goals and her OOC goals. In doing so, I formally accuse this player of bleeding and acting out of character and would like to request that action be taken. I'd also like it to be considered that the scene be voided.
Thank you for your consideration and don't hesitate to reach out with any other questions. I do not have screenshots of this scene but you can look in the logs to corroborate my version of events, or ask one of the many characters present including Pika's character and Cid's character.
Character Name: Juniper, Natania
As you are all well aware, Juniper planned a bombing event ICly. She coordinated with us admins to make this event possible and was supported through this process. Her chat history shows her to be very excited about this event, and her recent chat history in the Brighton chat seems to show her pleased with the death count despite ICly not wanting to cause any deaths - only structural damage.
The player seemed to have a lot of interest in the event being a big and bold one and seemed very focused on ensuring they were successful on what they planned for their character, making CPF be framed for this bombing. (which of course is fine in an of itself!).
The player who plays Juniper, Gummybear, has two forum accounts. Her other account, handmadeheaven, already has two characters. One of these is Rose Knights. The other is Natania Sherman. I do not know if this player has donated or not, but if not my understanding (although we update this often) is she is not allowed three characters to begin with.
After pulling off the bombing as Juniper, they logged and went onto their alt, Natania.
Natania has established herself to be forward-thinking and cool headed. She has exhibited these traits in her character and has put them in the personality section of her biography. I believeeven getting on Natania, a CPF leader, to participate in an other event in which she wants CPF to be framed, represents a conflict of interest. I think her very intentionally putting Natania into places where she could act in such a war to stir trouble and implicate CPF farther exacerbates this. Furthermore, I find it suspicious that she applied to Natania and Juniper under seperate account names.
I've established that I believe this conflict of interest exists. However, I do believe there is a possibility for a player to be involved in an event of their making without automatically bleeding or acting out of character.
I will now explain why I do not think that is the case in this situation.
For starters, Arlo and Natania had an earlier interaction not long before the scene where she was shown to be kind to him and seemed to see first hand he was a sensitive and sensible individual. I understand this point is flimsy as it's easy to change opinions on somebody you just met in the heat of the moment, but I believe it to be worth mentioning all the same.
More compelling, the death scene started when Arlo was walking away from the prisoner to go work to repair the walls and he came back upon hearing shouts from the prisoner after leaving her alone with Charles.
Arlo, in front of Natania, absconded Charles for whatever it is he had done to make her scream, insisting that he move and allow him to help her. Again, Natania ICly witnessed this, seeing Arlo stand up against her mistreatment while Charles promoted it.
Upon all three characters (Charles, Arlo, and Natania) entering the room, it was apparent Noelle (the prisoner) was not harmed. Upon this affirmation, Arlo asked Natania to please leave the room. She refused. Thinking maybe nobody informed her about the situation, Arlo patiently explained that Noelle was caught with bombmaking materials inside room, along with a bomb, and that there was more than enough evidence to detain her. He personally assured her that he would not let harm come to her without a fair trial.
Natania still refused to leave. Upon Arlo requesting that Charles detain her due to her refusal to leave the jailhouse, she drew a gun, pointing it towards Arlo. Arlo, having been drawn down on, raised his own gun too.
That brings us to the moments before Arlo's death. In them, we see Natania, a supposedly forward-thinking and cool headed person with loyalty to CPF, acting in a way that is diametrically opposed to her established character (both in her app and in past roleplay on the server). Natania is a Chief Ranger, a position that is very difficult to get and requires god street smarts, people skills, and the ability to think about what's best for CPF. As Natania was sent to The Barrens specifically to ingratiate herself to the locals, it's reasonable to believe she was particularly talented in this department.
In this situation, Natania is surrounded by Monroe's townspeople. It is extremely clear she wouldn't survive murdering Arlo.
Murdering Arlo would not achieve anything. In fact, it would achieve the opposite of her goal. It would very clearly make CPF look to be responsible for the bombing, considering she tried to forcefully break out the woman detained, using violence to do so. This is obvious, and something a character with limited wits would understand, much less one that is forward thinking and cool headed like Natania.
All the same, Natania chose to shoot Arlo, killing him. She did this despite it being massively out of character, despite the fact it would make Natania implicate guilt for CPF, despite the fact it would obviously be suicide.
Furthermore, Natania chose to choose Arlo over Charles, whereas Arlo was advocating against Charles in favor of ethical treatment of the prisoner and was not going to detain Natania herself, asking Charles to do so. I believe she had no IC reason to do this and I believe it's at least a real possibility she chose this decision OOCly because she thought Arlo might be the more clear-headed of the two, less likely to immediately blame CPF.
When briefly called out for this choice ICly, Natania simply noted that it was "a character flaw." I do not believe this to be the case. I believe the evidence laid out within this support ticket makes it painfully clear that Gummy/Handmadeheaven logged onto to her alt (a character she might not even be allowed to have) in order to implicate CPF for the benefit of her other character, Juniper. In doing so, she acted massively out of character, murdering my well-established character who provides solid roleplay for the server in order to achieve her other character's goals and her OOC goals. In doing so, I formally accuse this player of bleeding and acting out of character and would like to request that action be taken. I'd also like it to be considered that the scene be voided.
Thank you for your consideration and don't hesitate to reach out with any other questions. I do not have screenshots of this scene but you can look in the logs to corroborate my version of events, or ask one of the many characters present including Pika's character and Cid's character.
